A Head's Up Windows XP Updates

[Draven]

Not sure if you all got this update for Windows XP yet but I got it last night for me girl and well it cuts off the internet
Security Update for Windows XP(KB951748)
Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool - July 2008(KB890830)

Now before you all jump and say this and that, this is what I did.
Installed it and rebooted as asked, once rebooted went online and not internet connection. So I did the basic clean up of cookies, temp files, etc. and still nothing, then unplugged my router/modem(their built in together) to clean the cache and still nothing. After talking with my father(20+ years in programing and internet security) he had this to say, "they fucked you"(which is not the first time either). I am assuming that Microsoft is doing this as a means to get ppl to switch to Vista or the new Windows(coming soon). Anyways after all this a simple restore, yes that is right:) And everything was fine, now he is the bone-head moment of 2008, 4 hours later I got the same updates and yep installed them again(I know laugh) so I just restored and everything was good. This afternoon my father did his update and the same thing happened. I have 4 other ppl this happened too, so I think all XP users should watch out. If someone does intall these 2 updates with success please tell me becuase I do believe that this is against the law.

[crash]

Dude i think i've installed those updates 2 days ago, and i still can access the internet. One thing i didnt do like you, i shut down straight after the update, didnt reboot. :yahoo: Woah. Didn't know Microsoft would do such a thing.

[Draven]

Dude i think i've installed those updates 2 days ago, and i still can access the internet. One thing i didnt do like you, i shut down straight after the update, didnt reboot. :yahoo: Woah. Didn't know Microsoft would do such a thing.

Hmm, is there a reminder for you to reboot by you clock? And why wouldn't they? It is what $300 for Vista? $90 for XP and free for anything under 98 even tho there are no updates for anything under 98, even tho Microsoft is thinking of discontinuing everything under Vista(hear it from PC.com or PC Magazine.com

[crash]

Hmm, is there a reminder for you to reboot by you clock? And why wouldn't they? It is what $300 for Vista? $90 for XP and free for anything under 98 even tho there are no updates for anything under 98, even tho Microsoft is thinking of discontinuing everything under Vista(hear it from PC.com or PC Magazine.com

Nah i did not let them install the updates automatically, I installed them when i was shutting down so yeah, no irritating prompts every 10-20mins or so. That sucks, as I have no intention to switch to Windows Vista anytime soon. Too many problems. :m00:

[Draven]

Nah i did not let them install the updates automatically, I installed them when i was shutting down so yeah, no irritating prompts every 10-20mins or so. That sucks, as I have no intention to switch to Windows Vista anytime soon. Too many problems. :m00:

Come to Linux(picture a drug pusher with candy):crackup: Screw Windows altogether

[crash]

Come to Linux(picture a drug pusher with candy):crackup: Screw Windows altogether

Haha. Maybe in the near future. Im okay with XP now. Just hope that Microsoft don't withdraw support for it soon.

[Draven]

Haha. Maybe in the near future. Im okay with XP now. Just hope that Microsoft don't withdraw support for it soon.


I believe they(Microsoft) says everything under Vista shall be gone by 2010, now don't quote me, as I am always wrong with dates:D I do know they are working on a newer Windows(I am hoping it is Longhorn, I know they scraped it and gave Vista) but either way they are losing ppl to Linux everyday with their bullshit antics

[crash]

I believe they(Microsoft) says everything under Vista shall be gone by 2010, now don't quote me, as I am always wrong with dates:D I do know they are working on a newer Windows(I am hoping it is Longhorn, I know they scraped it and gave Vista) but either way they are losing ppl to Linux everyday with their bullshit antics

Yeah i hope Vista will be stable by 2010, as im sure i will be getting Vista sooner or later. About Linux, i haven't got the time to run it on a virtual desktop yet, as VampYre recommended. Do u use RedHat or Ubuntu?

[VampYre]

Why do people even do xp updates when they come out? Just wait a few months til you have about 30-40 to do...

I never update. When I had 2k pro, I didn't update for over 6 months. Until about a month ago, I hadn't updated my laptop (xp mce05) in over 10 months. Nothing terrible befell any of my machines. My gamer box is still running sp2...hasnt had updates since sp2...guess what? No problems with it...oh wait...I do have a router...hmmm...

[crash]

Well.. Everyone tends to update when they see the prompt. You never know what's gonna happen if you don't update. Maybe MS has just found a large loophole in XP? Anyways i create a restore point before every update so i can revert the update if it goes wrong.

[Draven]

Why do people even do xp updates when they come out? Just wait a few months til you have about 30-40 to do...

I never update. When I had 2k pro, I didn't update for over 6 months. Until about a month ago, I hadn't updated my laptop (xp mce05) in over 10 months. Nothing terrible befell any of my machines. My gamer box is still running sp2...hasnt had updates since sp2...guess what? No problems with it...oh wait...I do have a router...hmmm...

Couldn't agree more with this. My girl is not that computer savvy so she freaks when the lil yellow shield comes up. What am I suppose to do? I hate sleeping on the couch :lmao: Besides crash you said it shall be stable by 2010, well the new Windows OS shall be out before then and it is the same. Make, patch, patch(about 100 x) then one more patch and then repeat but with a new name. Has Windows even changed? Not really the real only change is the look and feel. I say by 2013 everyone shall be on some sort of Linux OS so I am not worried.

[crash]

Besides crash you said it shall be stable by 2010, well the new Windows OS shall be out before then and it is the same. Make, patch, patch(about 100 x) then one more patch and then repeat but with a new name. Has Windows even changed? Not really the real only change is the look and feel. I say by 2013 everyone shall be on some sort of Linux OS so I am not worried.

Yeah. True. Actually i think Vista has 'taken' the looks of their OS from Mac (Big icons that become even bigger when the cursor is over it). I also think that Microsoft should drop their 'Windows' branding and come out with a totally new OS like Microsoft something, instead of Windows something.

[Draven]

Yeah. True. Actually i think Vista has 'taken' the looks of their OS from Mac (Big icons that become even bigger when the cursor is over it). I also think that Microsoft should drop their 'Windows' branding and come out with a totally new OS like Microsoft something, instead of Windows something.

They have:) But it is 5-6 yrs behind, I had the Vista look back when I got my first pc(OS was Linux) and yeah Microsoft should have a new name like "Buy me dummy so I can bleed you dry with add-ons and useless programs" or simply Ubuydumb 1.0:thatsfunny:

Just think of Windows and Linux as VHS and Beta tapes, VHS was promoted and marketed well and beta wasn't but Beta tapes are better and last longer than VHS. Ol' Billy just marketed Windumbs so well it took off and ppl didn't want Linux, some even don't know that another OS exist. Linux is not that easy to use(like installed programs don't just get added to your start-up and files aren't really labeled like windows so it looks hard but looks are not all what they are cracked up to be.

[crash]

They have:) But it is 5-6 yrs behind, I had the Vista look back when I got my first pc(OS was Linux) and yeah Microsoft should have a new name like "Buy me dummy so I can bleed you dry with add-ons and useless programs" or simply Ubuydumb 1.0:thatsfunny:

Just think of Windows and Linux as VHS and Beta tapes, VHS was promoted and marketed well and beta wasn't but Beta tapes are better and last longer than VHS. Ol' Billy just marketed Windumbs so well it took off and ppl didn't want Linux, some even don't know that another OS exist. Linux is not that easy to use(like installed programs don't just get added to your start-up and files aren't really labeled like windows so it looks hard but looks are not all what they are cracked up to be.

Well. Its not easy for majority of the computer using world to make a change from Windows. They would stick to Windows unless something really huge happens, like if Microsoft became bankrupt. :lmao:

[Draven]

Well. Its not easy for majority of the computer using world to make a change from Windows. They would stick to Windows unless something really huge happens, like if Microsoft became bankrupt. :lmao:

"Microsoft became bankrupt" now that would be sweet!!! Wait, I am aloud to say this right?(didn't see nothing in the rules:D) But yeah I hear ya but I don't agree. A Few courses or even National Linux day should do the trick

[chooks]

Just think of Windows and Linux as VHS and Beta tapes, VHS was promoted and marketed well and beta wasn't but Beta tapes are better and last longer than VHS. Ol' Billy just marketed Windumbs so well it took off and ppl didn't want Linux, some even don't know that another OS exist. Linux is not that easy to use(like installed programs don't just get added to your start-up and files aren't really labeled like windows so it looks hard but looks are not all what they are cracked up to be.

I believe one of the driving forces behind Beta's failure was the porn industry taking on VHS as their format of choice. Sony didnt want to support the porn industry, so VHS was chosen and consumers followed. Quite a funny and interesting story!

And yes, Vista does just look like Mac OS X a few years ago. Micro$oft will just never be as good though. Bothhave good merits however. We all should live a more advanced life and convert to Apple hahahahaha :D Yes, I favour Mac hehe

[Frenchy]

Vista does just look like Mac OS X a few years ago. Micro$oft will just never be as good though. Bothhave good merits however. We all should live a more advanced life and convert to Apple hahahahaha :D Yes, I favour Mac hehe

Amen to that, been Using my sister's iMac and its just much more better looking than XP.

Also marketing today like Nintendo DS and PSP.
While PSP is clearly superior, hell it can emulate DS. Nintendo have sold much much much much more DS' compared to Sony selling PSP's

[crash]

"Microsoft became bankrupt" now that would be sweet!!! Wait, I am aloud to say this right?(didn't see nothing in the rules:D) But yeah I hear ya but I don't agree. A Few courses or even National Linux day should do the trick

:lmao: Yeah its just a personal thought, so i guess its allowed?


And yes, Vista does just look like Mac OS X a few years ago. Micro$oft will just never be as good though. Bothhave good merits however. We all should live a more advanced life and convert to Apple hahahahaha :D Yes, I favour Mac hehe

Yeah i do also have a MacBook at home, which my brother uses iMovie to edit his camera recordings. One thing that i like about Mac is that there is no need for any antivirus programs or any crap like that, as hackers/viruses seldom target Mac. UNLESS the Mac population increases, the hackers will continue to target Windows OS. :D


Also marketing today like Nintendo DS and PSP.
While PSP is clearly superior, hell it can emulate DS. Nintendo have sold much much much much more DS' compared to Sony selling PSP's

Most of my friends have a PSP, but none of em have a DS, so i can't really comment on this. Personally, I like the PSP for its portability and the OS. The look and feel of it is similar to the PS3. And the best part is, i've read that you can actually play your PS3 using the PSP wirelessly if you're in the toilet or something like that (with proper network config). :wth:

[Draven]

I believe one of the driving forces behind Beta's failure was the porn industry taking on VHS as their format of choice. Sony didnt want to support the porn industry, so VHS was chosen and consumers followed. Quite a funny and interesting story!

And yes, Vista does just look like Mac OS X a few years ago. Micro$oft will just never be as good though. Bothhave good merits however. We all should live a more advanced life and convert to Apple hahahahaha :D Yes, I favour Mac hehe

I 300% agree with this, chooks you rock! Bet ya Sony is kicking themselves for not aff with porn:lmao: Porn good, doggy porn ok, donkey porn badd(kidding or am I??)


Amen to that, been Using my sister's iMac and its just much more better looking than XP.

Also marketing today like Nintendo DS and PSP.
While PSP is clearly superior, hell it can emulate DS. Nintendo have sold much much much much more DS' compared to Sony selling PSP's

I have a PsP and my girl loves her DS and yeah I feel if Sony marketed well it would be like in the old days when Gameboy beat everyone, remember Game Gear for Sega? Colour screen, tv tuner, where is it now? Gameboy kicked it's ass that's where it is. Nintendo has genis' working in their marketing section. Tho, I can't say this for the Wii as I have played it and well the hype they give it is well not 100% true, it is a sweet console. Mind you the graphics are a little cheesy and also the games but I say give a a few more years(gen 2 or gen 3) and it might just take over the market.




Yeah its just a personal thought, so i guess its allowed?



Yeah i do also have a MacBook at home, which my brother uses iMovie to edit his camera recordings. One thing that i like about Mac is that there is no need for any antivirus programs or any crap like that, as hackers/viruses seldom target Mac. UNLESS the Mac population increases, the hackers will continue to target Windows OS.



Most of my friends have a PSP, but none of em have a DS, so i can't really comment on this. Personally, I like the PSP for its portability and the OS. The look and feel of it is similar to the PS3. And the best part is, i've read that you can actually play your PS3 using the PSP wirelessly if you're in the toilet or something like that (with proper network config).

Cool, I love the freedom of personal opinions, and hackers shall not really go after Linux OS as that is what they use LoL and yeah I have played my PS3 on the shitter through my PsP. I had an Xbox 360 and sold it cuz it was a pain in the ass to install a Linux OS on it, freaking Bill! Took me all of 8 mins to install Linux on my PS3. I love Sony, tried giving my PS3 some loving(you know;)) and well it took it like a champ LoL

[crash]

I have a PsP and my girl loves her DS and yeah I feel if Sony marketed well it would be like in the old days when Gameboy beat everyone, remember Game Gear for Sega? Colour screen, tv tuner, where is it now? Gameboy kicked it's ass that's where it is. Nintendo has genis' working in their marketing section. Tho, I can't say this for the Wii as I have played it and well the hype they give it is well not 100% true, it is a sweet console. Mind you the graphics are a little cheesy and also the games but I say give a a few more years(gen 2 or gen 3) and it might just take over the market.

Hey Gameboy totally kicked arse. Especially Mario and Pokemon!! I had a Gameboy colour, which i think should still be working if i dusted it. :p


Cool, I love the freedom of personal opinions, and hackers shall not really go after Linux OS as that is what they use LoL and yeah I have played my PS3 on the shitter through my PsP. I had an Xbox 360 and sold it cuz it was a pain in the ass to install a Linux OS on it, freaking Bill! Took me all of 8 mins to install Linux on my PS3. I love Sony, tried giving my PS3 some loving(you know;)) and well it took it like a champ LoL

What can Linux do in a PS3? Adds more functionality to it?

[Draven]

Hey Gameboy totally kicked arse. Especially Mario and Pokemon!! I had a Gameboy colour, which i think should still be working if i dusted it. :p



What can Linux do in a PS3? Adds more functionality to it?

Hell yeah to Mario!! Pokemon well not my game LoL and Linux on PS3, not truly sure yet, still working with it but it does allow me to customize my PS3 and that is what I like to customize everything, shit my toaster has LED's :crackup: But I have read that with Linux I can upload an emulator and play backed-up games, still working all the bus out tho

[crash]

shit my toaster has LED's :crackup:

:lmao: LEDs on a toaster? I think the toaster could use some Saturday Night Fever. If you could make the LEDs blink. :crackup:


with Linux I can upload an emulator and play backed-up games

Backed up PS3 games?

[GVOLTT]

Regarding the original purpose of this topic, it seems the internet killer update is Security Update for Windows XP(KB951748); from my searches, it seems to have a conflict with the ZoneAlarm Firewall.
Here are a few threads on the issue:
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?forumID=5&threadID=300573
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6132_102-0.html?forumID=32&threadID=300506
http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=access&message.id=33534

The Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool - July 2008(KB890830) update is perfectly okay, so it can be installed.

Hope this info helps.

[Draven]

:lmao: LEDs on a toaster? I think the toaster could use some Saturday Night Fever. If you could make the LEDs blink. :crackup:



Backed up PS3 games?

Could give it that but I mean that might just be overkill:) And back-up games are another way to say burnt games. My buddy copies all my games


Regarding the original purpose of this topic, it seems the internet killer update is Security Update for Windows XP(KB951748); from my searches, it seems to have a conflict with the ZoneAlarm Firewall.
Here are a few threads on the issue:
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-4_102-0.html?forumID=5&threadID=300573
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6132_102-0.html?forumID=32&threadID=300506
http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=access&message.id=33534

The Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool - July 2008(KB890830) update is perfectly okay, so it can be installed.

Hope this info helps.

Thx, this is very helpful

[crash]

My buddy copies all my games

Woah. Freeloader. :p

[Draven]

Woah. Freeloader. :p

Not really man, he get's me ship I can get(e.g. cd's and movies before the release date) as he works at a HMV so we trade shit up and plus he always brings me back some true Russian Vodka when he goes for holidays.

[crash]

Not really man, he get's me ship I can get(e.g. cd's and movies before the release date) as he works at a HMV so we trade shit up and plus he always brings me back some true Russian Vodka when he goes for holidays.

Oh. Then that's not too bad. How i wish i had a buddy who works at a music store.. Then i can get stuff before the release date.. :lmao:

[Draven]

Oh. Then that's not too bad. How i wish i had a buddy who works at a music store.. Then i can get stuff before the release date.. :lmao:

I would say it is 98% cool, some movies/cd's(like Harry Potter) were under lock and key due to the pirating and shit like that but I am getting the new Slipknot album 2-3 days before it is released:D

[crash]

I would say it is 98% cool, some movies/cd's(like Harry Potter) were under lock and key due to the pirating and shit like that but I am getting the new Slipknot album 2-3 days before it is released:D

Hey that's just cool. Remember to post a review if you can about the album, after you have listened to it. Back to the subject, so did u try to install the 'internet-killing' update again? :D

[Draven]

Hey that's just cool. Remember to post a review if you can about the album, after you have listened to it. Back to the subject, so did u try to install the 'internet-killing' update again? :D

I will and hell NO! I sent a copy to Microsoft about the problem and well yeah don't think they shall fiz it as they want you to use the XP firewall, which in my opinion is crap. It stops a lot but also adds way too much Microsoft adware/spyware but as (I believe) VampYre said it doesn't really matter if you update, I think I shall just install Ubuntu for my girl and let her have the freedom the pc can offer

[crash]

I think I shall just install Ubuntu for my girl and let her have the freedom the pc can offer

:lmao: Soon she may complain about application compatibility w/ Linux.

[Draven]

:lmao: Soon she may complain about application compatibility w/ Linux.


WINE should shut her up(hopefully) and if not I'll just say "I broke the XP disk by accident and you have to go with this for now":lmao:

[crash]

She ain't into that or at least she asks me first so I am 89% good(hopefully, if you jinx me I shall make to where you are and no no I shall send her there and you can take care of her for a week:lmao:)

Haha. If she's hot, why not? :lmao: But i think my crappy system won't last long now. Barely a few gigabytes left in my 2 hard drives, 80 and 120gb. :( Im waiting for the 1tb price to drop to around 200 bucks.

[Draven]

Haha. If she's hot, why not? :lmao: But i think my crappy system won't last long now. Barely a few gigabytes left in my 2 hard drives, 80 and 120gb. :( Im waiting for the 1tb price to drop to around 200 bucks.

"if she's hot" c'mon now, I ain't going any further as I would get my ass kick is I say the wrong words or even put them together wrong:soshelp: And my TB(500 x 2) is just getting full with all the vidoe's I am caping and well my 160 well it has to go on a diet cuz it was/is for work so I can take shit home. Yes overkill but the 2 gig flash pen wasn't enough as I am trying to design an outdoor park but want it to filter in with the indoor so everything flows right plus the pawn shop only wanted $60 about 8 month ago so I couldn't say no

[crash]

"if she's hot" c'mon now, I ain't going any further as I would get my ass kick is I say the wrong words or even put them together wrong:soshelp:

:lmao: She actually reads the forums??


And my TB(500 x 2) is just getting full with all the vidoe's I am caping and well my 160 well it has to go on a diet cuz it was/is for work so I can take shit home. Yes overkill but the 2 gig flash pen wasn't enough as I am trying to design an outdoor park but want it to filter in with the indoor so everything flows right plus the pawn shop only wanted $60 about 8 month ago so I couldn't say no

So your rips are also around 1GB per minute??

[Draven]

Yeah same. Lots of VP vids. What is the approx. size of your rips per minute?

I am not truly sure:soshelp: I don't look at the stats when ripping

[crash]

I am not truly sure:soshelp: I don't look at the stats when ripping

okay. What software do u use to rip? VDub?

[Draven]

okay. What software do u use to rip? VDub?

Nope the stupid software that came with the tuner card. Been trying different programs that shall cap but I don't like em, also I need it to work with Linux or at least with WINE

[crash]

Nope the stupid software that came with the tuner card. Been trying different programs that shall cap but I don't like em, also I need it to work with Linux or at least with WINE

Oh. But your rips look okay to me. :D

[Draven]

Oh. But your rips look okay to me. :D

thx but yeah the syncing is still a huge pain in my ass!

[crash]

thx but yeah the syncing is still a huge pain in my ass!

Yeah if its not mastered, it will stay with you forever. But once its mastered, you can rip any kinds of videos you want without worrying about sync. :D

[Draven]

Yeah if its not mastered, it will stay with you forever. But once its mastered, you can rip any kinds of videos you want without worrying about sync. :D

100% agreed

[crash]

So how do u go about in syncing vids? Put the audio thru Cool Edit or some other audio editing program?

[Draven]

So how do u go about in syncing vids? Put the audio thru Cool Edit or some other audio editing program?

No, not quite use to that program yet, use TMPGEnc and then mess with the audio gap until I see the lips and track 100% perfect. Still trying to understand Cool Edit, so yeah this shall have to do for now

[crash]

Yeah im not too familiar with the program also. Btw i may be getting a new pc soon. :D Core 2 duo 3.0ghz, 2gb OCZ ram , 1tb hdd, powercolour hd4850. All for less than a grand. :yahoo:

[Draven]

Yeah im not too familiar with the program also. Btw i may be getting a new pc soon. :D Core 2 duo 3.0ghz, 2gb OCZ ram , 1tb hdd, powercolour hd4850. All for less than a grand. :yahoo:

Sounds like you are going to get a great machine, Vista on it eh?

[crash]

Sounds like you are going to get a great machine, Vista on it eh?

Nope. Sticking with my trusty XP Home Edition. :D I'll wait till Vista becomes stable with no bugs, then i'll get it.

[Draven]

Nope. Sticking with my trusty XP Home Edition. :D I'll wait till Vista becomes stable with no bugs, then i'll get it.

Such an awesome machine and it shall be wasted on Microsoft LoL


":wth: is he still talking about Linux?"

[crash]

Such an awesome machine and it shall be wasted on Microsoft LoL


":wth: is he still talking about Linux?"


:lmao: Still trying to convert people into using Linux.. Yeah don't worry i'll try it one day, haven't got the time to do a VMWare thing to run Linux on.

[Draven]

:lmao: Still trying to convert people into using Linux.. Yeah don't worry i'll try it one day, haven't got the time to do a VMWare thing to run Linux on.

I shall corrupt one person at a time:yahoo: LoL

[crash]

I shall corrupt one person at a time:yahoo: LoL

:lmao: Okay back to topic, has any of your friends/relatives, basically people you know, complained about Vista? Not all those critics that you read online, I want real person opinions. :D

[Draven]

:lmao: Okay back to topic, has any of your friends/relatives, basically people you know, complained about Vista? Not all those critics that you read online, I want real person opinions. :D

Dude, I am going with ppl in real-life. I would not argue over something I read on the web. My father tried Vista and well within days he went back to linux cuz of the bugs and shit that Vista got. I have also had ppl that simply love Vista and think it is unique until I show them my Ubuntu OS and show them that Linux has been doing this for yrs now. I have also tried Vista and well I knew it wasn't worth the money so yeah I got it from a "friend" and low and behold I laughed so hard when I got it that my machine say "dude wtf, you put this in my and I smell like cat-fish now, weak" So yeah I am not one of those ppl that jump on the bandwagon cuz of what the web critics say, I research my shit and try it and then give my opinion

[crash]

Dude, I am going with ppl in real-life. I would not argue over something I read on the web. My father tried Vista and well within days he went back to linux cuz of the bugs and shit that Vista got. I have also had ppl that simply love Vista and think it is unique until I show them my Ubuntu OS and show them that Linux has been doing this for yrs now. I have also tried Vista and well I knew it wasn't worth the money so yeah I got it from a "friend" and low and behold I laughed so hard when I got it that my machine say "dude wtf, you put this in my and I smell like cat-fish now, weak" So yeah I am not one of those ppl that jump on the bandwagon cuz of what the web critics say, I research my shit and try it and then give my opinion

Oh well, i'm gonna stick with XP for a while more. :D Maybe trying Ubuntu soon.